Tuesday, October 26, 2010

Trek the second

So, Scoop! No Khan In Star Trek 2. So Who Will Kirk & Co. Face? by Devin Faraci.

The scoop offers the possible choices for the upcoming movie.

"It’s definitely a character that will make fans of TOS excited..."

Ooh! I sure am ready to be excited then.

"... Think along the lines of Harry Mudd or Trelane or Gary Mitchell or the Talosians or the Horta..."

I'm still ready.

"... Actually it’s one of those that I named."


Well, fine.

Harry Mudd is fun. Is there someone to play him?

The Talosians? It could be done. They are interesting.

The Horta, as Faraci wrote, "A great episode, and one that really captures the spirit of Star Trek and Gene Roddenberry’s original vision. But the story is too small for a movie, and I don’t really see how you include the Horta in a larger story without making them just a footnote."

Trelane? Let's get real. William Campbell is always a delight to watch, but The Squire of Gothos barely ranks above the terrible episodes for me, and then only for Campbell. It's a single punchline gag that even then was milked ad infinitum with Q.

Gary Mitchell? Are you fucking kidding me? I love Where No Man Has Gone Before, but this is putting me to sleep just reading it.

Hey, I've got a crazy idea! How about making something up?


Tony Dayoub said...

While I agree that an original idea is the way to go (getting locked into a remake at such an early stage of this reboot seems ill-advised), as long as this is the direction they're choosing I wouldn't mind seeing the Talosians or Gary Mitchell done right with plenty of new VFX to spare.

In the case of the Talosians, it'd be interesting to see Kirk and crew encounter them for the FIRST time, since in this timeline, Pike never visited Talos while in command of the Enterprise. We could then see the crew subjected to all kinds of revelatory hallucinations as Faraci says in his post.

In the case of Mitchell, it'd be interesting to have Mitchell introduced as a close fellow classmate of Kirk and McCoy's (we never see McCoy's friendship with him in the other timeline) who Kirk brings in as a replacement for Spock because he still can't see a potential friendship there. Mitchell could then experience his godlike powers, turn on the crew, forcing Kirk to realize Spock's true value.

I'm surprised they didn't go with the Klingons, and reintroduce one of Kirk's adversaries like Kor, Koloth, or Kang, albeit this timeline's version of him.

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised about Klingons myself. If I'd been the hinter, I'd have put Kor on that list.

But then I suppose their idea is to impress upon us that they're not doing any of the more obvious ideas, which is kind of cool.

My problem with the Talosians as well as Gary Mitchell is that I keep picturing them as skewed rehashes, and even as clever, modern, fancy alternate timeline ones, I'm just not that interested.

We're caught in a series that, as movies, has rehashed itself too many times already. First Contact, Nemesis and the reboot that this one follows up all unabashedly rehash The Wrath of Khan - one could make an argument that The Undiscovered Country does, too - if this series wants to set itself apart as learning from the mistakes of the preceding movies then anything with a whiff of rehash is exactly the wrong way to go.

anonymously because he can't login to Google at work

Tony Dayoub said...

I agree with your point of the rehash. But the likelihood of completely avoiding it (especially with cinema itself in a perpetual state of rehash with pre-sold properties prevailing) is slim.

Personally, I think the best way to straddle such a line is by addressing such "revisits" in pre-credit sequences. Like in the Bond films, you could see Kirk and crew wrapping up an alternate version of an original adventure (something which should be simple to do in short strokes with such iconic imagery as Klingons, giant bunny rabbits, Khan in his red jumpsuit, tribbles, etc.), before launching into a never before seen mission (you could even do one that would fill in the gaps, like the Federation's first contact with the sexual Deltans). It would address fan service as well as departing in a new direction.

Anonymous said...

I love that idea.

I've actually suggested that the Bond style opening sequences is what Superhero movies should do, partly to resist the continuing temptation to include tons of villains.

Think of the lame villains that would be cool to see in live action for 5 to 10 minutes in an opening. I've thought Spider-Man facing off with The Vulture or Rhino in an opening would be terrific.

And in this case, sure, you could even use the opening for advertising... or fold it in to an original idea, and if they're smart, hopefully something like that is what they're doing.

at work again

Neil Sarver said...

As a footnote, I re-read my review of Abrams's Star Trek today. Here I said I love "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and there I said I like the new Star Trek better. Perhaps I need to watch it again and have a clearer sense of what my damn opinion of that thing is.

Anonymous said...

way late here, but don't you think Oliver Platt could play an excellent Harry Mudd?


Neil Sarver said...


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